Episode 657 Todd Jones Interviews Rob Cairns About Marketing
Show Highlights
In a special twist for Episode 657, host Rob Cairns gets put in the hot seat as guest host Todd Jones takes the helm. Todd grills Rob with hard-hitting questions about the evolving landscape of digital marketing. Together, they discuss why marketing trends are shifting faster than ever, the core principles that remain unchanged, and how the collapse of traditional marketing funnels in 2026 is forcing businesses to build trusted ecosystems instead.
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Show Notes
Key Takeaways
- The Speed of Marketing: While traditional marketing used to change every few years, the digital space and the rapid advent of AI mean marketing strategies are now evolving on a regular basis.
- The 4 Ps are Still Alive: Despite technological shifts, the classic core principles of marketing—Product, Price, Place, and Promotion—remain absolutely necessary. The core principles haven’t changed; only how we execute them and reach target audiences has.
- The Death of the Traditional Funnel: In 2026, standard marketing funnels (like cheap tripwire products or “free plus shipping” models) are losing efficacy because they fail to establish genuine trust.
- The Shift to Ecosystems: Instead of pushing prospects through a rigid funnel, successful marketers are focused on bringing people into an “ecosystem” across multiple platforms (such as Substack, LinkedIn, YouTube, and email newsletters) to build long-term relationships.
- Exclusive Breaking News: Rob shares an exclusive announcement for Stunning Digital Marketing clients: Effective June 1, 2026, all WordPress security care plans will include an integrated email marketing service inside the WordPress dashboard for up to 5,000 subscribers at no additional cost.
Marketing Advice for Small to Medium Businesses
- Prioritize Your Website: Ensure your website is consistently updated, conversion-optimized, and acts as your home base.
- Build an Email List Now: An email list is a critical asset. You are legally allowed to add existing customers to an email list to start, provided you give them a clear option to opt out.
- Analyze Competitors: Sign up for competitors’ newsletters and monitor their marketing to understand regional trends and find your unique positioning.
- Network and Create Relationships: Get out to live events, build face-to-face relationships, and pitch yourself to be a guest on podcasts. Frame your messaging around the specific problems you can fix for the client rather than just listing your services.
- Don’t Fight a Race to the Bottom: Avoid competing purely on low prices unless your business model specifically supports it. Value your expertise and charge for the real worth you provide.

